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Author: | dubell [ Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:39 am ] |
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Say you took off 1/64” too much in one of the nut slots and now the string buzzes. Is this fixable, or is it a nut re-do? Thanks, Doug Ubele |
Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:55 am ] |
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I replace the nut. It is cheap and god practice ![]() |
Author: | crazymanmichael [ Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:58 am ] |
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build up with bone dust and ca. i wouldn't do it on a "for sale" or a commisioned instrument but is very useful in repairing worn nuts when client doesn't want to spring the ready for a new nut. |
Author: | John How [ Tue Apr 26, 2005 8:15 am ] |
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I say the fix is a new nut |
Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Tue Apr 26, 2005 8:23 am ] |
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UV cured dental epoxy ![]() |
Author: | tl507362 [ Tue Apr 26, 2005 9:10 am ] |
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I tried the bone dust and CA, and I have never had any luck. I always get a squeaky sound when tuning the guitar, and it also caused a dull sound to the string. I say replace the nut. Like Michael said, good practice. Tracy |
Author: | Josh H [ Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:38 pm ] |
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Michael has the best solution if you can have access to the dental equipment. Which I don't think most of us do. A luthier at a repair shop showed me the dental epoxy trick and it worked great. Short of that the nut should probably be replaced. The bone dust trick sorta works, but often it doesn't work real well. Josh |
Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:19 am ] |
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A nut is too simple and inexpensive part to settle for less than just right. I also plays too big a role in the sound transfer. I do not like the idea of filling a nut. even with the hi tech dental epoxy and uv curing there has to to be a loss in energy, small as it may be. Besides Doug, after it is done I bet you will find you did a better jub on the new nut than the first ![]() |
Author: | dubell [ Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:40 am ] |
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I agree. I plan on making a new one, but not until I am done experimenting with tolerances. Now that I have lowered some of the strings too much, I want to raise them temporarily and note it. Once I am complete I will make a new nut. Thanks guys, Doug Ubele |
Author: | crazymanmichael [ Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:09 am ] |
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why not just shim it? |
Author: | dubell [ Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:08 am ] |
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My neck is mahogany.....shim it with a 1/64" mahogany sliver? |
Author: | crazymanmichael [ Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:53 am ] |
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you could use mahogany, but since you are going to make a new one anyway why not just just use some business card, match book cover, what ever. |
Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:24 am ] |
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Here is my reason for not shimming. I believe this is Doug's first build. It is just a nut, as simple of part as there is to replace. Shimming will work but making a new nut to spec will make it right. ![]() |
Author: | crazymanmichael [ Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:42 am ] |
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doug said he is going to do a new one, but not until he is finished with his experimenting. whilst experimenting, the shim gives the temporary leeway to experiment, cheaply, both financially and time wise, thus my suggestion. but, on the otherhand, it could be argued that he needs the practice so the more nuts made the better. but at no time did i suggest shimming as a permanent fix. |
Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:40 am ] |
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Michael I didn't mean to sound like I was critasizing your advise, and after reading my responce I think it may have sounded like it. ![]() ![]() |
Author: | Wade Sylvester [ Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:36 am ] |
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Any of you guys heard of the baking powder and super glue trick? Supposedly it bonds to the bone and cures as hard too. Breath on it when you add the drip of s glue to the filled cut and it helps cure faster. Moisture helps to activate it somehow. Make up a wood sliver to add just a tiny bit of glue so you don't over fill it. |
Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:47 am ] |
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I supose you could use micro beads and CA. I have some very small dia. capillaries that make dripping a single very small drop easy. |
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